Internal GPS hack for TomTom for those who should not want it...

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Snoyt, you didn't write on Nokia's recent gaming blunderous decision of locking games to phones.
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A lot of hoops to jump through but could be useful for some. I try my best not to use the GPS on my N95 8GB as it's about as useful as a paper mache paddling pool. Although it is better than nothing if I've forgotten to take my BT unit with me.
I prefere the mobipocket/Nokia Maps way of licensing games. There was a big post on AAS a couple days ago. Still it was nothing new. All the mobile software vendors lock software to the IMEI. New phone? Bad luck... It was clearly written in the licensing. Still Nokia could raise the bar. I'll start complaining when I start buying a new phone ;^)
AGPS and a Maps udate that allowed selecting a destination and start driving before the GPS had a fix fixed most annoyances and problems I had.

Odly, I only take a separate GPS with me for hiking, because then it needs to be IPX-7 (water and shockproof). And a magnetic compas and altimeter are pretty nice to. The biggest advantage of a bluetooth GPS is the extra lithium-ion powersource for the GPS. But in the car I have a powerplug and when walking the battery drain is pretty limited for lazy persons ;-) But if need be there is my b-powered or a proporta recharge battery.

No I like my all-in one swiss pocketknife mobile, even with it's minor faults.

I prefer an all-in-one mobile 'pocket knife' solution too but the N95 8GB isn't quite there. 99.9% I'm using GPS whilst on foot and I like to use Sports Tracker whilst walking/jogging but it's way to inaccurate for that (I can't run at 20mph for instance, let alone walk that fast!)

Don't blame Nokia for the inaccuracy of GPS. There inaccuracies inherent in the GPS technology. Partly due to the fact that the atmosphere is not homogeneous and the traveltime of radiowaves as such has unknown variations. For pinpoint accuracy positioning information of a additional local groundstation would be required. Still the GPS offers great possibilities as does their latest stepcounter application.

Besides a pocketknife is only a pocketknife, not a dedicated powertool.

I'm not blaming Nokia for the US Government's Global Positioning System - I'm blaming Nokia for the rubbish GPS receiver in their N95 8GB! ;o)

I get far better accuracy with an external BT unit, including fewer improbabilities (such as walking at an impossible speed through brick walls!)

"Besides a pocketknife is only a pocketknife, not a dedicated powertool." First of all a separate GPS has much less problems with interference of other electronics in close proximite. Like radio interference from wifi, 3G/GPRS, GSM and bluetooth signals. Secondly, the TI GPS chip is a power optimized chip with a lower sensitivity meant for civilized use. It is designed to be better at solving GPS signal reflection issues (from nearby buildings) than high sensitivity partly relying on AGPS support to enchance reception and location accuracy. Full AGPS support could yield localtion data inside buildings. But few cellnets supply this info.

And for the N95 (8GB) you really need to open the slide to get full signal reception as stated in the manual.

For a consumer's POV, the in-built GPS reception is, on occasion, next to useless. On Friday I was out and about and my N95 8GB couldn't even get a fix, despite being in the great outdoors, not a cloud in the sky and standing still for a few minutes! To be fair though, this is something that doesn't happen all the time and perhaps could've been fixed by re-booting.

Usually it gets a fix but can have trouble keeping hold of it - even with the keypad open and pointed at the sky! Strangely enough I was able to get a fix on a jumbo jet over the Atlantic despite being the hurdles (being in a giant tin with tiny holes fo windows and travelling at many hundreds of miles an hour) but getting it to work on a train is harder!
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Your complaints are not convincing. Each and every one happens with other GPS too. Even in a clear field my Garmin outdoor GPS can have trouble with reception. A direct side to side comparison is required to see the difference

The USA can drop the connection, or I can stand in a tightbeam radio link. Hell sometimes the radar of the trafficspeedmeasurements gets my GPS on tilt. Garmin, Nokia or otherwise. There are some know deadspots. Even sunspots can completely blank the GPS signals. So... A direct side to side comparison is required to see the difference. Feel free to do so and give us a blogpost ;-)

Have a look at this test from GPS Passion.

P.S. Trains contain far thicker radioshielding than airplanes.

I'm just going on my own personal experience, I'm a end-user not an expert in the field. I've only owned three items with GPS functionality but I use GPS on foot daily (Nokia Sports Tracker). Even with my phone out, slide open and walking with it face up, on the exact same routes, it's not as accurate as either of the BT units I've used.

It's still handy to have GPS capability in the phone - it's one less thing to carry/forget, as well as being good enough to get a rough fix on where I am. If it's accuracy I want though, for me, it's gotta be BT.

Now, if a bunch of BT GPS manufacturers want to loan me some units and if WOM World want to lend me a bunch of GPS-enabled phones, I'm more than willing to spend a month on the same route putting the whole lot to the test.

Ha too late, swoop down on this test.

More recent test with AGPS support.
As interesting as those are, they seem messy and inconclusive (the pictures help though). If I were to do it I'd repeat the exact same route daily for a month or two. There are few obstructions on the route i'd use and no canyons (urban or otherwise!) so my test wouldn't be able to prove or disprove anything related to that but would, at the very least, be useful for other Sport Tracker users.
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Looking at the tracks I draw, with some hesitation, two conclusions:

first: AGPS seems to improve the signal correlation results. Particular in situation where there are problems with more singal reflections. Paths seem less jittery and reliable.

second: Location errors caused by signal confluences are in the same order as the differences in accuracy between the different GPS. A more exact comparison requires a more statistical approach. I.e. averaging of multiple tracks. I suggest at least 10. 100 tracks would be very nice, reduces the error in the average 10 fold. Still as such the difference in quality of the different GPS-systems for logging tracks is small.

Your suggestion to look at multiple tracks is spot on. Even simply walking the circomflex of a stone building (maybe even with a bit reinforced concrete in them), no more than 2 meters from the wall, would give an alternating signal strengths of the different sattelites on the horizon. Proper statistics would require some fancy mathematical calculations and requiring a bit deep thought. Though not of Douglas Adams' proportions.

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