VOIP Fring and SIP on the N95

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I started playing with Fring a few days ago and found it worked quite well. Haven't tried TruPhone yet (link please !) or Gizmo on the N95, but I'm waiting for an S60 version of Skype.

Just a comment regarding SIP - it's just a protocol that the other applications use (Session Initiation Protocol), not an application in itself.

As for Skype video calls - it will be very interesting to see...

What I'd like is a desktop stand that allowed me to use the front camera as a webcam..:-)

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I'd rather have SIP videocalls. Skype on Symbian is almost the biggest vaporware currently. Promised already two years ago. Only second to Duke Nukem Forever. I don't think it can be done with their protocol in reliable way on slow processors (331 MHz). Skype for the Pocket PC also has a bad quality compared to my Desktop PC. Still a small report or sample of you voice quality over Fring would be nice.

There is software to use your mobile camera as a webcam available. Have a google.

You know that you can get TruPhone to work through Fring? I found the password needed to setup the settings within Fring, see my post at http://www.mobilevoipforum.org/showthread.php?t=554

It's good to use Fring if you have a crippled N95 that doesn't allow TruPhone to work natively. I've found that using TruPhone is generally better than using Fring but if you want to use it without a WiFi connection then Fring is perfect!

Cheers,
Merlz
Fring is mentioned to put a drain on the battery. There is some chatter about the builtin SIP being poweroptimize by Nokia. Some people mention having unbrand their N95's. I definitely would not buy a branded phone if it were crippled in some way ;-)
getting your N95 unbranded is real easy...Just download NSS ..change your product code to some generic version ..and let Nokia software updater do the rest :D
I found that the battery drain with Truphone is brutal, you have to make sure you disconnect from Truphone servers after you're done your call otherwise the wifi just chews up battery life. But i guess it's a small price to pay for free long distance (for another 1 1/2 months anyhow).
HI guys!
I use gotalk (au voip company, bad support and crappy website, but have nice features otherwise). The cool thing about gotalk is that they give you a landline number in australia, so people can call you for a local cost to your mobile. Fring works with gotalk (just like any other sip service), but when I get phone calls coming in via fring over gotalk, I can't hear anything and they can't hear anything either. Making sip calls through fring using gotalk is fine can hear everything etc. Also can use SIP in the n95 using gotalk, but only connects if using wireless lan, but doesn't connect via 3G data (Through Planet 3 or 3 net access).

So here are 2 questions:
Does nokia n95 built in SIP support connections through cellular packet data - 3G or does it only work over Wireless LAN?

Has anyone had any issues with fring receiving sip calls and not having any voice coming through or being sent (ie can't hear anything)?

Any suggestions appreciated.

PS the voice quality of fring over HSDPS (3.5G and 3G) is good, also over lan the n95 sip and fring is good quality too. Well worth the cost.

Cheers Roman

Yes the N95's native sip-stack can VoIP over 3G. I can on my t-mobile connection. Not without an occasional interuptions since it is very low bandwidth.

Trouble with incoming SIP connections on wifi networks are in my experience caused by improper firewall configuration. Portforwarding of port 5060 udp to you phones wifi ip-number is in general required.

Fring in general rerouts SIP over their own node and as such has no problems traversing firewalls. As such voice quality howerver is less than pure SIP, the extra node distances cause more packet-'loss'. IF you are using fring over 3G they might be causing the problems.

My SIP number is also a fixed landline number for almost no cost (10 euros a year). Many VoIP companies now provide this feature, but mostly they are far more expensive.

I have the SIP-connection running 24hrs a day, the battery drain is insignificant.

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